Fake Profiles - Wipro goes on the Offensive!

December 8, 2007 · Filed Under corporate darkroom 
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Wipro Technologies has started sharing with competitors its database of job applicants who have faked information in their CVs, the first such initiative in the Indian IT industry.

The database, containing the names of hundreds of individuals and recruitment agencies, is being made available to two of the top five domestic IT companies and efforts are on for a similar arrangement with many more, Pradeep Bahirwani, vice-president for strategic sourcing at Wipro Technologies , told ET.

He declined to name the companies with which Wipro is cooperating. TCS, Infosys, Wipro, Satyam and HCL Technologies are India’s five biggest software exporters. The informal arrangement will involve the exchange and review of information on CV cheats, preventing lying job-seekers who have been caught in one organisation from joining another.

HR experts say that the manipulation of resumes, especially in collaboration with recruitment agencies, is assuming alarming proportions. They estimate that 15-20 % of resumes have some sort of misrepresentation , subtle or blatant. Inflated salaries, wrong designations and incorrect prior experience are seen as examples of subtle misrepresentation while falsely claiming to have worked for a company is regarded as falling in the blatant category.

IBM India, Infosys and TCS, too, have been quietly dismissing employees who have been caught fabricating their academic or professional backgrounds. In March 2006, the issue became public when Wipro Technologies not just fired some employees for faking their CVs, but also filed police complaints against them.

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25 Responses to “Fake Profiles - Wipro goes on the Offensive!”

  1. karthik on December 10th, 2007 1:14 am

    Thats danger bells ringing!!!

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  2. UNITES on January 15th, 2008 6:55 pm

    Every person is guaranteed right to work, which is a fundamental right under the constitution of India and International Labour Organization (ILO) conventions, ratify the same.

    This database needs to be Cent per cent fool proof or like the case of Mr.Lakshman who was held in police custody for 50 days for mistaken identity ( he was suspected for using an IP Address from which is malicious activity was done, later the ISP firm confirmed it was a mistake from their side and Mr. Lakshman never had the said IP address). An employer’s wrong comment or negative attitude could ruin an employee’s life and future.

    So if Wipro has started this initiative they should also take full responsibility for any mistake/misinterpretation of database that they are sharing.

    Regards
    UNITES

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  3. rajeev.ambastha on January 18th, 2008 8:38 pm

    I am agreed with UNITES. Not only Wipro, all companies who want to do same should work carefully and must take full responsibility for their deeds.

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  4. vinu on March 9th, 2008 12:30 pm

    Hi,

    Wipro is a very good and nice concern but the managers and other senior levels are not good enough to maintain the dignity of the company. bcoz of this wipro reputation fails…. everywhere in India….

    vinod

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  5. Anonymous on March 12th, 2008 11:33 pm

    Wipro is scared that those who quit Wipro may join other companies and become against ultimately…that is why such wierd initiative. first it has to look its internal problems before servicing others.

    Do the existing wipro records are 100% true by now?
    then why is it firing employees who have about more than 5 yrs of experience in wipro by now…
    dont believe in wipro…its a snake…bites its own employees if they find them heavy for the sake of profits..a cheap trick.

    Laterals.., Never believe Wipro HR policies.., its like a snake.. will only bite you at the end of the day..no job security at Wipro for Laterals…

    If required, they may help you manipulate your CV during recruitment (seen such cases..was also was part of selection process at times 3 to 5 yrs back, plz don’t blame me- instructions given to me are like that) this is not to help you !!!! believe me. You are in trouble if you do this and join Wipro.

    When few companies use performance as basis for freeing the free pool/ firing technique with prior notice saying your project got over. But Wipro gets your old record itself to downsize their the freepool. It fired few with above 5yrs of working in Wipro not based on performance.

    Now they have about 8 thousand in freepool. they fire a reasonable number for their convenience, later they will stop firing for some time. Again if the pool size goes up they again fire few more. They do BG checks before appraisals. BG checks done at Wipro are multiple…twice in every year..when they don’t need you at some particular point of time…then you are gone in next BG cycle..otherwise why after 5 BG checks they are firing now during 6th cycle? Cheap tricks.
    One provide a great dinner and makes you sleepless whole night, rest of your life…
    Or
    One who will not invite you for dinner
    Or
    What do you think is an offer?

    They will keep your BG in hold if you are to deliver somework for next week then after your work gets over they talk about integrity in the discussion with you…. means they don’t bother about your personal life commitments/ notice period but they do what’s convenient to them. INTEGRITY !!

    They don’t mind to update incorrect reports at entry, but once they find you heavy…they talk about integrity. Where is the very word INTEGRITY..
    when they are recruiting altered CVs when they require you saying “Walk in and take the offer”? INTEGRITY !!
    Suggesting altering CVs for the current requirement? INTEGRITY !!
    When they are making people work at onsite on B1 visas? INTEGRITY !!
    Billing unutilized hrs? INTEGRITY !!
    Billing leave days? INTEGRITY !!
    Using WASE students for full time work along with an employee still saying employee benefits won’t apply to you because you are still a student and you are paid stipend? Suck their blood and pay peanuts!! ITS ALL INTEGRITY !!

    Now…ask a goodhike for your performance or ask for onsite or ask for a release or ask for good role in the team or ask for a long leave for personal reason…. they still can do this firing action—-cheap management.

    The leader has money to invest his vision get profits but no human values. I don’t know where he want to take India with profits and no human values.

    I don’t want to support who do CV alterations…but
    India is a developing country…The quality process you set up should balance the rate the country is developing… Only fools expect a 100% quality just overnight…it should be convincing to both parties as both involved in the fraud…under the roof called Interview process.

    Mr. X is getting salary for the work he/she do AND You will be paid profits by clients for the work Mr. X has done for you.
    At some point of time after few yrs if
    You say Mr. X is false now and you fire/ terminate Mr. X or His career(if you believe it is legal) AND what should the client do(ing) to you? …is he terminating your contract or going to fight legal against you for the false info you provided to client about Mr. X as you are responsible here and billed Mr. X accordingly?

    In any situation Mr. X the looser because Mr. X befriended with Viper(wipro)?

    Don’t blame talent just for the sake of your profits/ cost cutting/ etc.
    No one will remain in the organization where job security is poor. They only spend time for salary…give him job security then you will get worth of it, if you don’t understand what is its worth, don’t ask you will be there where you are now or even down.

    For example: When there are 10000 specialists in a technology, already in work with different services companies. Let’s say each company got new projects offshored, and let us say all companies require about just 100 laterals. Do laterals born just because you wanted them now????? Even if you get few laterals from other companies…the same case is with other companies…so if you can understand this equation you can understand how you are encouraging a talent to do a mistake… in India we already have hell lot of problems…this is a professional way of encouraging a talent to do mistake, putting him in trouble.

    Warn him before doing a mistake but don’t give him a chance to do a mistake then end his life. It is like selectively ending career of a talented Indian. What do you think he will do after this action?

    I don’t blame who cook their CV….I blame only the leader who is greedy about his own company growth not having a vision ‘where he is taking his country’s talent to’…being in an inspiring position….

    One who can cook his CV in just few days is equating himself with who have experience in Years….now tell me who is talented/ hard worker/ responsible?? Keep your integrity, Human values aside. cause they are said and not done at wipro anyway….they would have made to understand by everyone in high level management not just limited to poster publicity like a movie publicity. One who is working in Wipro is not happy and outside not happy. Why still talk about Human Values??

    Don’t we know WIPRO was never in top 10 best employers in India inspite of its long career in IT?

    Don’t spoil career of a talented Indian . Just for his food and career he is doing this not to become multi millionaire or something right!!!!

    Jesus said: No One Born of God Makes a Practice of Sinning, punish who created an opportunity to make a sin.

    Mr. Real…Everyone wants food for living…not just the one with filled stomach.
    Stay yourself in an island, starve yourself for a yr and then talk about honesty, F***er
    You don’t know how jobless talent facing problems outside and what is making them to do so.
    Simply don’t make statements just because your are filled stomach and ready to rest.
    He may be altering his CV to get a job…and he is doing it the best at work ..Now tell me what is your problem? You are scared of his potential? If you are challenging compete with him and prove your Real talent, what is stopping you?

    In down time before 2003… IIT pass outs, BITSians, NITans, University toppers do not have opportunity to work..its not that they are not talented,,its only lack of opportunity…
    Now even a normal degree student with bare minimum percentage is getting a job as a fresher. Its pure luck..and who depend only on luck is the worst of its kind, I believe.

    At least Indian services companies should realize that India is still middle class…don’t expect a professional who is from middle class, give him a chance and see…he will be the best out of all.
    …. Don’t spoil a talented ones with such un realistic mechanism and ultimately don’t give them a chance to become criminals….

    Fight for human values but for that don’t do fight against human.

    The above content may have lot of emotions in place but nothing is meant to hurt anyone.
    I am the one who have very closely observed life of such talent case.

    Fan of Fan Frank Abagnale Jr.
    ~ Catch me if you can (An inspiring movie released during 2002)

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  6. Anonymous on March 24th, 2008 7:30 pm

    Mr 40Anonymous
    Your long article has all the artifacts of a true middle class software engineer.You are right,first of all Wipro doesnot have a right to defame people.If You dont like people,tell them to leave but if You fire them and also expose them as blacklisted people what is the guarantee that they dont turn out as Naxalites or other anti-social elements in the society.WIPRO for God’s sake stop doing all this.

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  7. GOD on April 4th, 2008 6:09 am

    On one hand I think I think it is good for the industry while on the other hand I think it is only one sided. Let us try to expose the companies’s misdeeds as well Hopefully my post on this subject will be online by tomorrow.

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  8. sd on April 4th, 2008 2:55 pm

    I have seen the cases where company itself is making employees to show more fake experience so that they can present them to client & then the same company sacking them later sometime giving the reason that theese guys faked in CV & so are fired.

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  9. mustkass on April 11th, 2008 1:20 am

    Faking profiles for clients is also quite common in my country (Germany). Service companies adjust your profile to the clients needs. They give you your current profile just before visiting the client. Same practice everywhere. We don’t have blacklists as you describe it, at least nobody talks publicly about having such lists.
    Your website is great! It’s interesting to see the (mis)behavior of international companies in different countries.

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  11. Anonymous on April 11th, 2008 5:07 pm

    Wipro Tehcnologies is Rubbish company to work! I faced these idiotice natured company previously.

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  12. Madhu Rani on April 15th, 2008 4:19 pm

    Hi,

    I am looking for top paying company in Hyderabad. Got 5+ years of exp. in one of the top telecom companies. Wanted to relocate to Hyderabad now.

    Can some one point me to the list of top paying companies though small scale.

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  13. raja on May 20th, 2008 12:01 pm

    Indian software companies like satyam are cheapest mentality companies.whu because again they are indians.thewy will cheat clients to make mony.clinets has to come into some agreement to terminate their contracts with these employers.

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  14. Sumer-Kumar on June 7th, 2008 9:05 am

    Does Wipro also look internally and publish its own chicanery wrt to trumped-up resumes ?

    Having dealt with them as subs et al before, they are the biggest violator of this “truth in CV”
    - resume inflation
    - mis-representation of value prop - inflate the “value”, minimize the risk/exposure/cost - does not admit to mistakes, slow to learn, etc
    - play games with hierarchy to show “position power”

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  15. thegreat_techie on June 18th, 2008 9:26 pm

    hi guys,
    its all underliying politics, which people has to face, being as a part of the society, I know candidates who are from middle class and lower middle class facing problems regarding employement, not everybody is lucky to get job at the right time, sometimes their is a problem with acameics(as companies deny candidates not having aggregate percentage) its all politics to shortlist candidates from the huge crowd and to ipress their client with great cvs,
    an average candidate who has done be/btech/mce fromm any univ. college is a perfect candidate to work in indian it sector, because this sector doen’t have anything more than a work like clerks do in govt. office the only thing diff. is the quality of communication, if have gd comm skills with diplomatic values and attitude you are the right candidate for this industry rest is hardwork, be concious everytime… becaz you cant blame anybody for your downturn but others may have n no of reasons to defame you, no emotions play in any industry, keep in mind about ur paycheck wht u hv to bring hm at the end of the day, dont rely on any company all are almost same expert in manipulating emplyees, they have hired hr managers to do politics and undermine the employee both emotionally and inteletually so employee can change into a machine who can act when triggered,
    be happy all of you…
    there is a world of crime and corruption out there in which thirdworld people have to survive somehow

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  16. Manu on June 24th, 2008 3:13 pm

    Hello All,

    I have seen these companies have no ethics when it comes to business. They also use the fake sales tools to justify their competencies in their projects.

    I think the C.V is a tool to gat a initial opportunity and it is personal.

    There is a need for am amendment in rules to privacy.

    I think you guys should start writing a disclaimer on your C.V.

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  17. Ramu on June 24th, 2008 3:54 pm

    whatever manu said is 100% correct.these indian companies wipro and satyam behaves with silly mentalities. ther are making money from Clients thru fraud again they are playing games with IT professionals.we have to bring certain act in order to tighten Indian companies behaviours.

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  18. Sumerius Maximus Kumbaya-ji on June 24th, 2008 4:49 pm

    note again: this initiative is ILLEGAL in most markets (including US, UK and EU). The amount of potential litigation brought about by these moves is so high, that its a poison-pill strategy by India Inc.

    The labor courts in these domains do not look favorably on this action. While its “intent” is reasonable, it is in violation of many tenets of employees rights. The fact that these might be non-existent in India is irrelevant.

    Forget about TOS and outsourcing… policies like the above will make it impossible to re-badge (absorb customer workforce); most large global outsourcing contracts cannot be succesful without this.

    Maybe this is their exit strategy.

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  19. Ramesh on June 24th, 2008 5:49 pm

    Yes Why indians companies are doing like this

    Linga raju came from Chepala Cheruvu background in bhimavaram and Premiji came from selling bulbs and soaps.

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  20. XYZ on July 31st, 2008 1:00 am

    hi, i have applied for WIPRO and got offer also but on the same time got offer from midlevel indian company the place of work is near to my home but if i join wipro place of work is far away …………………both have offered me same salary but i thought..
    Their is less pool of people in midlevel company and myself is heading a department but on the other hand in wipro i am ops manager for one of the client and got great name WIPRO(?) in my Cv…but for midlevel company head the department but with smaller name…

    What should i do????

    Join WIPRO or MIDLEVEL

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  21. sundaram on July 31st, 2008 12:17 pm

    Sumerius, You are hilarius :D

    So asking cheaters and criminals joining the company on fake resumes to quit is illegal!! Wow! This is not pakistan Dude!

    And while you are at it, please take a relook at cock and bull resume you submitted. You should be afraid! very afraid!!

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  22. Sameer on September 10th, 2008 3:33 pm

    hey then what abt the guys who want to join Software industry but are presently working with some training institutes, these buls dont even consider teaching(IT) as an experince…

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  23. Kishore on September 13th, 2008 1:53 am

    The so called gaint IT indian companies…I have want some answers from you.

    1). I had work experience with HCL, PATNY, Satyam and many other companies if you say that resumes are faked……then what the name we should give to you while modifying the resume before submitting to US clients?

    2). For the latest tech knowledges you ask for experience of 10+, and in fact in india the outsourcing on this tech knowledge started recently….all this bledy service providing companies need 12+ exp guys…but even though if a person have real time 5 yrs exp (0 fake) you wont sort list the profile……?

    3). when some project is confirmed and you need resources for billing, you will hunt for head count. why cant you stand firm regarding the fake and other company standards at this kind of situations.

    4). the so called great companies encouraged fake…and now raising voice due to down trend in US market.?

    finally want to say who doesnt know about these great companies….

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  24. ASingh on September 17th, 2008 3:30 pm

    Hi,

    Even I have a very bad experience with wipro.

    The one year, that I worked with them I got the impression they are a very opportunist company, dont provide sufficient opportunities and exposure to employees and then asks them to leave citing bad performance.

    It is surprising that a person (me) can be a very bad performer at Wipro and a top performer in other companies in the same domain and technology.

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  25. Mapps on September 27th, 2008 3:19 am

    Hello All, IT Company..! Seems to be a magic word..right? Different opinions ! people who gained from it praise, and rest curse. Reallity is everyone gained, but the less profitted minds feeling bad. After-all Wipro(most of the companies..not blaming all) is an entity purely started for profit, so man power & machine power are treated equally with some differentiation(becaue u will question).

    If you are straight forward, soon after joining with Wipro and found its policies(in reality) are not aligning with yours, then you should have acted immediately and started searching for the right one.

    When we talk about fake resumes provided to clients, we do agree with them for our own personal benefits and go hands with the companies cheep thoughts. But when they start complain about us(you should have expected it…its bitter to think about the known truth about a selfish-friend, who will turn anytime against you..because you also act as reliable friend and accepting him acting smart for your current benefits..right!), we feel bad and talk against the company, suprisingly we suddenly talk about right & wrong. Either we should have guts to prove and make it an legal issue that the company is not maintainig integrity for its customers or should not have accepted to alter your resume.

    Current surpassing growth in India, made most of the people go mad and our companies are not exceptional(think about your lifestyle on first quarter of your first job, and today…never expected …right! lots of attitude change…mostly to the negative) and made us to do good or bad, without second thoughts, even bypassing and hurting your fellow human beings. Most of your daily activities are aligned towards salary, position, rewards investments etc…right..!All because of your current surplus income given by your company. We suddenly started seeing dozens of 500 bucks in our wallet alltime, and talk about lakhs frequently..even crores now a days. Our companies are not exceptional, they talk in billions and go more for it setting yearly forecast with X% growth year-on-year. These goals are set without considering the integrity, human values etc etc…so they are get tampered often to meet the goals by the senior managements, and Top management go hands with them(acting) because they are anyway in GAIN, which there ultimate goal of starting the company. So there attitude is also aligned to think about profit, revenue, expansion, top-company, etc etc and not see us as an employee, or as young indian brains, not even as an human being..we are just a TOOL. they will use only the right tool which would help them to be on their goal track. DONT COMPLAIN..! think about next and live smart, dont act smart..eventually things will change.sure it will take decades…but try to start from you..!

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